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    Best US Location To Live When TSHTF

    Easily stated, where do you think will be the best place to live in the United States when the shit hits the fan. I understand most of probably don't live where we think would be the most ideal location due to having family members nearby and employment opportunities.

    Northeastern - for the most part the northeast is very crowded it seems. I'm aware that there is lots of rural areas for example I'm told upstate New York has a beautiful countryside and large deer compared to the deer we have here in Texas. But the overall population density would concern me and its also very cold in the Northeast so I'd never make it.

    Mid-Atlantic - Has some nicer weather but and I think you'll get a good change of climate with each season. I lived in North Carolina for about 4 years as a child and we lived in more rural area and I visited some extremely rural areas. But areas in Virginia and close to Washington D.C. seem to have the same population density problems you'd find in the northeast.

    Mid-South - Not even sure what all areas are considered mid-south but I think it includes Missouri, Arkansas, Kentucky and Tennessee all of which I believe are on the new Madrid fault line.

    Southeastern - Some really good rural areas here but the only disadvantage I can think is the southeastern US tends to have lots of severe weather tornadoes and hurricanes.

    Great Plains - Probably one of the most ideal regions in the United States for farming but a good portion of the Great Plains are in or nearby the famous tornado alley.

    Southwestern - I think this would include places like Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona all of which are known for being home to freedom loving Americans. I live in coastal Texas and would prefer the more central Texas area but employment reasoning is the main reason I choose to live where I do. With exception to the coastal areas (very humid) most of this region is very hot and dry. Wildfires and drought are very common problems and a good portion of Texas is also in or near tornado alley. Also recently along the Mexico border areas illegal immigration and violence from drug cartels have been a major issue.

    West Coast - Earthquakes anybody? California especially just seems to have way too many problems to me, they have earthquakes, wildfires and mudslides. If I had to live on the west coast I'd probably go further north towards Oregon. And its also my understanding that the west coast has been one of the hardest hit areas in regards to the economic crisis.
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    i read your whole post and i dont see or understand where or what you say is best place to live. did i miss something? where you think is the best place? georgia really isnt a bad state to live in long as you stay away from the metros like atlanta.

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    I guess I didn't really give my opinion of where I think is the best place and it really wasn't my point to do so. Truth is the best location would all depend on the type and scale of a potential disaster. Different people fear different things are to eventually happen, some think economic collapse is coming, some predict nuclear war, while others think there will be some deadly plaque. But I am sure there are people who are in a location that they don't feel safe and looking for advice and reasoning on where might be a good place to be when the fecal matter hits the fan.
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    I don't think I'd worry about heavily populated areas. Most city folk, that I know of, don't own guns, can't survive without an iphone or Starbucks, and would seek the comfort of the herd.

    Not sure what the traveling conditions would be, the amount of prep time/heads up, but if I had my choice, north and east of Houston. Lots of trees, wildlife, and water has to be easier to find.

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    I've heard that a good place would be 400 miles from the nearest gas station. This would help keep people from driving to your BOL. I was wondering, where in America can you go that's 400 miles away from a gas station? The desert maybe? if so, that's a hard place to survive.

    I thought about bugging in, but in a long term situation, people will do crazy things. Especially if they think or know you have something that will help or even save them or their children.

    I have plenty of firepower at home, but I have to sleep sometime. I might be able to hold off a mob for a short time, but I live in a regular house. My walls are not reinforced, my windows will break, and most concerning of all is I have a conventional roof. 1 molotov cocktail landing on my roof will do the trick for the bad guys.

    When the SHTF, I'm staying in Texas but I plan leave the heavily populated areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonso1 View Post
    I've heard that a good place would be 400 miles from the nearest gas station. This would help keep people from driving to your BOL. I was wondering, where in America can you go that's 400 miles away from a gas station? The desert maybe? if so, that's a hard place to survive.
    LOL, I can just imagine going to the gas station to fill up and getting home and being on empty again. But that is a good point the further away from a gas station the less likely it would be to encounter travelers. I often wonder how many people are going to suddenly run to the woods & country settings. Some of the most desolate locations might become more densely populated once SHTF happens.
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    Lower population density and a gun friendly state. Next, is the ground productive and have water? Etc etc etc. im Texan and some areas of West Texas I think would do fine, but the closer you get to the metros.... Also NW of Houston, I think, or any large metro with a body of water limiting escape routes would seem like a bad idea to me. The throngs of the golden Horde are what would scare me, I think. Just my thought.

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    My city/state lol! Utah gun laws are awesome! Then as far as the city I go through my wooden fence in the back yard, and maybe a half mile away are the mountains then to the south I am on the city border so maybe a mile then im out. Then to the east maybe 5-10 miles im in the more desert area out of the city love it here.
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    I'm in MN. Our gun laws are reasonable -- lots of hunters here. Farming is good, there's fairly diverse terrain. LOTS of water. Only major drawback is the cold winters, but that's what extra layers of clothes are for

    I'm looking for a new place for two reasons; While I essentially live in a suburb of a suburb, I'm still a bit too close to large population than I'd prefer, and between a highway and an interstate seems like I'd probably have to deal with a lot of refugee traffic in a post SHTF situation. Also, I live in a townhouse, so I have exactly zero land. Of course in a SHTF scenario the first thing I'd do is plow under the grass in my "front yard" (10x10 ft ) because at that point HOA be damned. But, I don't know I could trust my neighbors to not go completely batshit crazy and screw up my survival.. so I'd really like to be further out from the large population areas, with more usable land.

    Aside from those two things I feel like my general location is good.

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    I want more acreage but I want something in which I can shoot my guns freely in the backyard if I want and I'd also like a to have my own little wildlife conservation going on my property until the need arises that I'd have to start hunting. I can obtain 15 to 20 acres for a reasonable price within a few miles of where I currently live but the type of wildlife is pretty much limited to wild boar hogs and rabbits and I wouldn't be secluded enough to set up the gun range in the back 50 either.
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    Where I am isn't bad. Weather is reasonable. Winters aren't to severe. I have plenty of water very close. Even though it is in a metropolitan area we seem to have a lot of game. I don't know if it would be sustainable if everybody started shooting it. Rivers and lakes where we can fish are very close. Land is fertile, and can be farmed. Fruit trees will grow productively.

    The threat of earthquake, tornado, ice storms are very real. We survived a 500 year flood some years back with zero damage, and only very minor inconveniences. Unless there is a mega-tsunami from a landslide in the Canary Islands, floods probably aren't an issue.

    I have major concerns about healthcare. Right now I am near a hospital. It is a 2 minute drive, but in a SHTF situation I could ride a bike there no problem. Two family members require maintenance medication. Without it survival would be extremely difficult, maybe impossible. Even in a TEOTWAWKI situation if the medical professionals leave I might be able to find out where they are going and follow them. This is an overriding concern for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbreferee View Post
    I have major concerns about healthcare. Right now I am near a hospital. It is a 2 minute drive, but in a SHTF situation I could ride a bike there no problem. Two family members require maintenance medication. Without it survival would be extremely difficult, maybe impossible. Even in a TEOTWAWKI situation if the medical professionals leave I might be able to find out where they are going and follow them. This is an overriding concern for me.
    My son has ADHD and this is a concern I have as well, he's been on the medication for going on 3 years now and when if he goes without he's honestly a danger to himself because of the hyperactivity.
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    Away from people, on land you can farm (crops / animals), and one that you can live 12 months out of the year with limited or no power.
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    I would want to stay at my home for a short period during the SHTF. I live in Northern Vermont and I have no issues with the winter. It'll keep the weak ones out of the way! As far as gun laws in Vermont... There are none. 21 and older with an NCIC instant check and your good to go. No permits or CCW's required for open or concealed carry. Gotta lOve the Gold Star States!

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    Quote Originally Posted by David White View Post
    I would want to stay at my home for a short period during the SHTF. I live in Northern Vermont and I have no issues with the winter. It'll keep the weak ones out of the way! As far as gun laws in Vermont... There are none. 21 and older with an NCIC instant check and your good to go. No permits or CCW's required for open or concealed carry. Gotta lOve the Gold Star States!
    I have a lot of family in Vermont. I love the pure maple syrup. Whenever I go up, I get some!
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    I've thought about this subject long and hard and for me and judging by the best of my knowledge of the areas of the US I've lived and visited central Texas has some of the most ideal location in my opinion. They got lots of really good deals on land in west Texas but there is a lack of woodlands and I prefer to be surrounded by trees.
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    When the end comes all land is up for grabs by the strongest. So even if you have something be ready to defend it. Makes me wonder how people even survived in Europe 1500 years ago.
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    I'm about 15 minutes from the City, but it's a Small City, and about 45 Minutes from the Larger City which is where the beach is at. The safer place would be for me to move further west of my Area, even though i live in a Rural area.
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    I live in an apartment, from my point of view, you'd be surprised how many people in the cities own some type of gun. The people in the cities are going to have a hard time of it because there are going to be a lot of people trying to take from other people who have already planned for emergencies and/or disasters. You have to constantly hide everything you buy. My son and I buy a lot of stuff online because it comes in boxes, and no one really knows what you have. I have stored a lot of stuff, especially the freeze dried food, in 5 gallon buckets and taken off any logo, stickers, or markings that might suggest what is inside.

    My next door neighbor is a good example. She has figured out how to make the system work for her and does not try to get a job. She just sits at home collecting welfare. I use to talk to her now and then until I got tired of the speeches about how people who have jobs are automatically obligated to take care of the unemployed. I don't mind helping out families that are truly in need, but I refuse to help someone who makes it obvious she won't do anything work to help herself.

    It's going to be hard for people who are stuck in the city of SHTF, because we are constantly going to have to hide what we have, and fight to keep it. I have talked to people at work about preparing for disaster, and you would be surprised how many people who really think that it will never happen to us, either because we live in America, or that the 1929 depression situation will never happen again.

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    Back in the 1500's people had better morals then. They also had a better sense of right and wrong. They knew if they did not help their neighbor keep their land, then no one was going to help them. There was a true sense of honor back then.

    I have found a show from many years ago, Frontier House. I downloaded some of the episodes and have been watching them with my son. I think every one who is truly interested in preparing for a economic crisis should really watch these episodes, they will give you a strong idea of what type of shock your going to be in if you have to start all over like they did in the 1880 and further back.

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    If don't already live there or it isn't half a gas tank away, you might as well bug in. Personally I'm bugging in.... I have more seafood than I could ever possibly eat within walking distance. Waterways and coastlines are where food and trade routes ( assuming worst case) will take place. Sure you can live by yourself in some remote area and you will be fine. Have a family though and the story will be different. Sooner or later you will have to interact with other people. Strength in numbers will be the key.

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    Hello there folks. I figured I would pop in on this forum thread since I covered this topic extensively in my book "Plan and Prep: Surviving the Zombie Apocalypse".

    First of all several of the posters already hit the nail on the head by understanding that the best place to live will depend on the SHTF event itself. A sudden warming of the planet that would melt large amounts of ice in the north and south poles would cause our shorelines to move dramatically, so living near the shore would be a bad idea. If nuclear war is the cuplrit the entire midwest is going to be uninhabitable and your best bet for a safe place in America will be the upper northwest due to prevailing winds and lack of a target rich environment.

    If you are talking economic crash then just about anywhere near a large city is going to be a bad place to live. Outside of major cities won't be safe in certain directions either. For instance, if you are south of Chicago you will be in trouble because that is exactly where the people leaving Chicago are going to go. People in Atlanta will head east most likely, just as people in Miami will head north, New York will head west and Los Angeles will head south. These are normal movement patterns based on the geographic and demographic natures of the locations.

    Every part of the country (USA) falls under the threat of some sort of natural disaster whether it be tornado, flash flood, drought, hurricane, blizzard, etc. The goal is not to determine which area has NO threats, but to rank the threats based on likelihood. The midwest is near the New Madrid fault line, but the likelihood of that fault shifting is low, and the damage it would create for someone living remotely is minor compared to people living in LA or San Francisco.

    Also in the midwest you have changing seasons. With changing seasons you get better food growing capabilities usually and migration of animals. This increases your ability to feed yourself and your family without great intervention on your part. Although farming is difficult, gardening isn't too bad and you can feed a family of four on a little more than an acre if you prepare it properly. Obviously food resources will depend on how many other people are in the same area and what natural resources you have available in regards to forests, lakes, rivers, etc.

    Lastly you want to look at the threats that are posed by the geographic location itself. Mountains, deserts, plains, swamps etc all have their own dangers and can kill you as quick as any disaster.

    My money is on the midwest, personally. Not saying it is the best for everyone, but for me and my family it is certainly where we are planning to ride out any storm. If you can afford to do it, get yourself a small homestead in a rural area where you can prepare to live off the grid if necessary. Ensure you understand some of the more important concepts of homesteading such as food growth, gathering and hunting; food storage and preserving; water purification, filtering and storage; basic carpentry and first aid. From there you will only need to master about 2 billion more skills but in the end it will be worth it.

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    We live in rural Illinois, a long way from Chicago (thankfully). If the SHTF, our area might be decent for riding out whatever happens. We normally get plentiful rain. Ground water replenishes and wells are easy to dig here. There are great creeks and rivers for fishing. There are good wooded areas for hunting. There's quite a bit of game. The soil is rich for growing food. The population density (where we live) is not high. Everyone has guns (rural area). It isn't a vacation mecca, and it isn't a "sexy" location, but that keeps prices reasonable, meaning we can actually afford to live here! lol

    Anyhow, depending on the disaster, it may be perfectly reasonable to Bug-In and ride it out at home.

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    Firstly: Hi! This is my first post (I follow you guys on twitter).

    I spend a lot of time looking at this exact question. I've been trying to figure out where to buy my bug out property for quite some time now. Right now I'd say that Idaho, Montana and Wyoming are looking the best. (Wyoming is my first choice for tax reasons, but Idaho and Montana have some better land so there's a consideration there as well). Besides just looking for the perfect POST SHTF conditions you also need to consider the CURRENT conditions. Someone did a study a while back ranking all the states from least to most free. Its a good place to start your search. Then look at things like weather (solar, wind?) also consider that in places that have very cold winters you are going to need to make considerations for keeping warm during those months in off grid scenarios. You want a place that's not that densely populated but at the same time you don't want the nearest home depot to be an 8 hour drive away if you are actively developing your safe place. Wherever you pick make sure there are trees and wild life. The trees can become fuel for heat and material for building, wild life can become food if store availability becomes a problem or your little garden is getting boring. No one wants to live off vegetables exclusively for the rest of thier life (well except vegans and those people are frickin weird :P)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbsps View Post
    Firstly: Hi! This is my first post (I follow you guys on twitter).

    I spend a lot of time looking at this exact question. I've been trying to figure out where to buy my bug out property for quite some time now. Right now I'd say that Idaho, Montana and Wyoming are looking the best. (Wyoming is my first choice for tax reasons, but Idaho and Montana have some better land so there's a consideration there as well). Besides just looking for the perfect POST SHTF conditions you also need to consider the CURRENT conditions. Someone did a study a while back ranking all the states from least to most free. Its a good place to start your search. Then look at things like weather (solar, wind?) also consider that in places that have very cold winters you are going to need to make considerations for keeping warm during those months in off grid scenarios. You want a place that's not that densely populated but at the same time you don't want the nearest home depot to be an 8 hour drive away if you are actively developing your safe place. Wherever you pick make sure there are trees and wild life. The trees can become fuel for heat and material for building, wild life can become food if store availability becomes a problem or your little garden is getting boring. No one wants to live off vegetables exclusively for the rest of thier life (well except vegans and those people are frickin weird :P)
    Thanks for your first post (a very good one at that), I hope you'll stick around and when you get a chance be sure to make a thread in the member introductions area.

    As a Texan, I must ask have you at least considered the Lone Star State?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeknaBuzz View Post
    Thanks for your first post (a very good one at that), I hope you'll stick around and when you get a chance be sure to make a thread in the member introductions area.

    As a Texan, I must ask have you at least considered the Lone Star State?
    I did take a look at Texas. There are a few reasons its not ideal for me.

    1) While they have no personal tax, I am a business owner and likely always will be. Its just part of who I am. Texas is lot more friendly on personal taxes than they are on business taxes.

    2) Land. Texas is pretty barren. Not a lot of trees. Not a lot of big game. Not a lot of fish. Farming in Texas is significantly more difficult than other states.

    3) While Texas claims to be all freedom loving, they are pretty hard core when it comes to sentencing crime. I don't see myself committing any major crimes, but if I end up on the "wrong side of the law" I'd prefer not to receive the harshest punishment possible. A lot of this goes to the strong religious presence in Texas. I've got no real problem with people believing in a god. But when they start using that belief to dictate legislation I get pretty uncomfortable. Which brings me to another point:

    4) I probably wouldn't fit in. I'm not a republican. I'm a Libertarian . Its similar. Take all the love for capitalism, the free market, and fiscal conservatism, and then subtract the hardcore moral judgement and then you got libertarian. Its like fiscally conservative, morally liberal. I doubt my atheist, totally don't care if women want abortions, don't really care if gays want to marry or bone each other views would make me many pals in Texas. Which is a shame because I like just about everything else about Texans :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbsps View Post
    I did take a look at Texas. There are a few reasons its not ideal for me.

    1) While they have no personal tax, I am a business owner and likely always will be. Its just part of who I am. Texas is lot more friendly on personal taxes than they are on business taxes.
    There might be another reason as a business owner to avoid Texas but this site list Texas as #2 in the top 10 states to have a small business with the following stats:
    State Tax Index Overall Score: 12.34
    Top Personal Income Tax Rate: 0% (1st, tied with Alaska, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Tennessee, Washington and Wyoming)
    Top Corporate Capital Gains Tax Rate: 0% (1st, tied with Nevada, Ohio, South Dakota, Washington and Wyoming)
    Top Corporate Income Tax Rate: 0% (1st, tied with Nevada, Ohio, South Dakota, Washington and Wyoming)
    State and Local Property Taxes as a Share of Personal Income: 4.01% (38th)
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    2) Land. Texas is pretty barren. Not a lot of trees. Not a lot of big game. Not a lot of fish. Farming in Texas is significantly more difficult than other states.
    This is completely wrong and would only be correct if you was only looking at specific region in Texas, we like to call that region of Texas, "West Texas."

    Quote Originally Posted by dbsps View Post
    3) While Texas claims to be all freedom loving, they are pretty hard core when it comes to sentencing crime. I don't see myself committing any major crimes, but if I end up on the "wrong side of the law" I'd prefer not to receive the harshest punishment possible. A lot of this goes to the strong religious presence in Texas. I've got no real problem with people believing in a god. But when they start using that belief to dictate legislation I get pretty uncomfortable. Which brings me to another point:
    Some would argue that this is a good thing but I'll accept it as a legitimate reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by dbsps View Post
    4) I probably wouldn't fit in. I'm not a republican. I'm a Libertarian . Its similar. Take all the love for capitalism, the free market, and fiscal conservatism, and then subtract the hardcore moral judgement and then you got libertarian. Its like fiscally conservative, morally liberal. I doubt my atheist, totally don't care if women want abortions, don't really care if gays want to marry or bone each other views would make me many pals in Texas. Which is a shame because I like just about everything else about Texans :-)
    I really think your vision of Texas might be fogged up by a few common misconceptions of the state. The Christians here will just pray for somebody like you, not stone you to death. The issues regarding religion & politics are going to be true in any part of rural America, just look at the voting demographics and you'll see. So truthfully those views don't really fit in any part of rural America, but I don't think your number 1 goal when looking for a good place to endure a SHTF event is to fit in with people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeknaBuzz View Post
    There might be another reason as a business owner to avoid Texas but this site list Texas as #2 in the top 10 states to have a small business with the following stats:
    State Tax Index Overall Score: 12.34
    Top Personal Income Tax Rate: 0% (1st, tied with Alaska, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Tennessee, Washington and Wyoming)
    Top Corporate Capital Gains Tax Rate: 0% (1st, tied with Nevada, Ohio, South Dakota, Washington and Wyoming)
    Top Corporate Income Tax Rate: 0% (1st, tied with Nevada, Ohio, South Dakota, Washington and Wyoming)
    State and Local Property Taxes as a Share of Personal Income: 4.01% (38th)
    http://www.advisorone.com/2012/05/08...etiree&page=10

    That site is inaccurate. They probably havent researched texas taxes very much. Your state has something called a franchise or "margin" tax on business for a few percentage points. Capital gains and personal income are excellent of course (which is why I said they rock on the personal side! :-) )




    This is completely wrong and would only be correct if you was only looking at specific region in Texas, we like to call that region of Texas, "West Texas."


    ^ this is probably true. After I discovered all the other stuff I didnt spend as much time as I normally would looking for good property there. Fair point.



    Some would argue that this is a good thing but I'll accept it as a legitimate reason.

    ^ Yay we agree :-)



    I really think your vision of Texas might be fogged up by a few common misconceptions of the state. The Christians here will just pray for somebody like you, not stone you to death. The issues regarding religion & politics are going to be true in any part of rural America, just look at the voting demographics and you'll see. So truthfully those views don't really fit in any part of rural America, but I don't think your number 1 goal when looking for a good place to endure a SHTF event is to fit in with people.
    ^^ also pretty valid.

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    For me and my wife the answer took several years to figure. We are moving to Alaska this coming summer. For us it is everything we want. And before you spout off about the weather let me clue ya in on something.

    We currently live In North Dakota. So the area of Alaska we want to live in is actually comparable weather, some areas that have our interest actually have much better weather. Besides, when it is 40 Below here we sleep with our bedroom window open. I guesse we are the rare minority that actually LOVE the cold. SO weather is a moot point for us.

    Yeah we know about the long days and nights too. These also are no issue for us. We understand this is just part of the lifestyle change that goes along with being in Alaska.

    We don't much like the city life ( I have spent many years in it), my wife is all farm life raised. We can easily find the seclusion we want in Alaska, but still be within easy reach of town.

    In SOME places in Alaska it can be more costly than folks in the lower 48 are used to. Anchorage prices are VERY near to what we pay where we are now. We are in a MAJOR oil boom area and prices have gone up here quite a lot. Good thing we are able to handle this as well.

    Our goal is to have a piece of land that we can drive to year around. Though a LOT of people in Alaska airplanes like we use the truck. Its just a way of life there. And since I want to get my pilots license this is ok too.

    Alaskan's a hardy folk who do things there way. Outside of city limits there are little to no taxes on property. You also don't need permits to build outside city limits, for the most part. Lot of hunting, fishing and some good growing once you know how and get used to the seasons. People in Alaska understand that you respect your neighbor because they could mean the difference between life and death. Sometimes help is a long ways away, when a neighbor is just down the street. So people there understand this.

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    The last frontier. Sounds like an awesome plan! There is another member here that lives in Alaska. If he doesn't chime in give him a private message http://www.zombielyptic.com/member.php?435-Stocker
    I'm sure he can give you some hints.

    I would also recommend a ham radio license for that part of the world.
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    Yep, I have been considering HAM radio. But to be honest we would kinda like to stay close enough to the road system that we can drive year around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papaswamp View Post
    If don't already live there or it isn't half a gas tank away, you might as well bug in. Personally I'm bugging in.... I have more seafood than I could ever possibly eat within walking distance. Waterways and coastlines are where food and trade routes ( assuming worst case) will take place. Sure you can live by yourself in some remote area and you will be fine. Have a family though and the story will be different. Sooner or later you will have to interact with other people. Strength in numbers will be the key.
    unfortunately that is the drawback with being in a prep survival group.....we r spread over 9 states now but also we grew and almost doubled our size with the 2 new states .....we found a central location in texas that would b ideal....but worst comes to worst ....all outta state memers will come to GA it having the most members and supplies stocked up

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